From c058488274bb8e69e5f2f8b761c142069b14f490 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: intrigeri Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 02:33:24 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] reply (regression != suboptimal) --- ...PI_change_breaks_wikis_with_po_plugin.mdwn | 47 +++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 47 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/bugs/urlto_API_change_breaks_wikis_with_po_plugin.mdwn b/doc/bugs/urlto_API_change_breaks_wikis_with_po_plugin.mdwn index 1f46c1511..617796d73 100644 --- a/doc/bugs/urlto_API_change_breaks_wikis_with_po_plugin.mdwn +++ b/doc/bugs/urlto_API_change_breaks_wikis_with_po_plugin.mdwn @@ -36,3 +36,50 @@ investigated this yet. >>> with `po_link_to = current`, always go to the master language, >>> whereas perhaps it'd be better to go to the negotiated language in >>> this case? --[[smcv]] + +>>>> Thanks for taking care, thanks for these improvements! +>>>> +>>>> OTOH I consider any of these behaviours (either the brand new one +>>>> = link to master language, or the alternative one = link to +>>>> negotiated) as a regression. Any of these is contrary to what +>>>> `po_link_to = current` is supposed to do according to the +>>>> documentation. +>>>> +>>>> Let's be less technical, let me display my practical usecase +>>>> (making this possible was one of the main reasons I initially +>>>> implemented `po_link_to = current`). +>>>> +>>>> Summary: the current state of things is an annoying regression +>>>> and it needs to be fixed. +>>>> +>>>> Context: I participate in building a Live system based on Debian +>>>> Live; the project's multilingual website +>>>> ([T(A)ILS](https://amnesia.boum.org/) is built using ikiwiki. A +>>>> static / offline copy is shipped on ISO images; this is the way +>>>> end-user documentation lands on the CDs. Note that no webserver +>>>> runs on the Live system to serve this wiki, so `po_link_to = +>>>> current` is compulsory. A user can choose her preferred language +>>>> at boot time. Depending on her decision, The desktop shortcut +>>>> that points to the embedded documentation (i.e. static wiki) +>>>> links to a different entry point depending on the chosen +>>>> language. +>>>> +>>>> The previous (documented) behaviour was deadly simple: if I am +>>>> presented a page in English (master language) it means it does +>>>> not exist in my preferred language; the computer always displays +>>>> me the best available version according to my needs. The new +>>>> behaviour brings a troubling seemingly random factor into the +>>>> user navigation experience and IMHO is a mess from a web +>>>> ergonomics point of view (no content negotiation available, +>>>> remember): I sometimes am shown an English page although it is +>>>> fully translated in my language one click away, and on the +>>>> contrary I sometimes I am shown the optimal page. This, is, well, +>>>> interesting. This practically forces the non-English speaking +>>>> website visitor to check the otherlanguages list on every single +>>>> page to make sure *herself* there is nothing better available, +>>>> and sometimes click on her preferred language link to get a page +>>>> she actually can read. +>>>> +>>>> I unfortunately might not be able to dedicate the needed time to +>>>> help fix this in a timely manner, so I don't want to urge anyone. +>>>> Take care! --[[intrigeri]] -- 2.32.0.93.g670b81a890