1 [[!tag wishlist blue-sky]]
3 In the long term, I have been considering rewriting ikiwiki in haskell.
4 It's appealing for a lot of reasons, including:
6 * No need to depend on a C compiler and have wrappers. Instead, ikiwiki
7 binaries could be built on demand to do the things wrappers are used for
8 now (cgi, post-commit, etc).
9 * Potentially much faster. One problem with the now very modular ikiwiki is
10 that it has to load up dozens of perl modules each time it runs, which
11 means both opening lots of files and evaluating them. A haskell version
12 could run from one pre-compiled file. Other speed efficienies are also
13 likely with haskell. For example, pandoc is apparently an order of
14 magnitude faster than perl markdown implementations.
15 * Many plugins could be written in pure functional code, with no side
16 effects. Not all of them, of course.
17 * It should be much easier to get ikiwiki to support parallel compilation
18 on multi-core systems using haskell.
19 * A rewrite would be an opportunity to utterly break compatability and
20 redo things based on experience. Since the haskell libraries used for
21 markdown, templates, etc, are unlikely to be very compatable with the perl
22 versions, and since perl plugins obviously wouldn't work, and perl setup
23 files wouldn't be practical to keep, a lot of things would unavoidably
24 change, and at that point changinge everything else I can think of
25 probably wouldn't hurt (much).
27 - Re templates, it would be nice to have a template library that
28 doesn't use html-ish templating tags, since those are hard for users to
29 edit in html editors currently.
30 - This would be a chance to make WikiLinks with link texts read
31 "the right way round" (ie, vaguely wiki creole compatably).
32 *[See also [[todo/link_plugin_perhaps_too_general?]] --[[smcv]]]*
33 - The data structures would probably be quite different.
34 - I might want to drop a lot of the command-line flags, either
35 requiring a setup file be used for those things, or leaving the
36 general-purpose `--set var=value` flag.
37 - Sometimes the current behavior of `--setup` seems confusing; it might
38 only cause a setup file to be read, and not force rebuild mode.
39 - Hard to say how the very high level plugin interface design would change,
40 but at the least some of the names of hooks could stand a rename, and
41 their parameter passing cleaned up.
43 We know that a big, break-the-world rewrite like this can be a very
44 bad thing for a project to attempt. It would be possible to support
45 external plugins written in haskell today, without any rewrite; and a few
46 of the benefits could be obtained by, eg, making the mdwn plugin be a
47 haskell program that uses pandoc. I doubt that wouod be a good first step
48 to converting ikiwiki to haskell, because such a program would have very
49 different data structures and intercommuniucation than a pure haskell
52 Some other things to be scared about:
54 * By picking perl, I made a lot of people annoyed (and probably turned
55 several people away from using ikiwiki). But over time there turned out
56 to be a lot of folks who knew perl already (even if rustily), and made
57 some *very* useful contributions. I doubt there's as large a pool of haskell
58 programmers, and it's probably harder for a python user to learn haskell
59 than perl if they want to contribute to ikiwiki.
60 * It might be harder for users of hosting services to install a haskell based
61 ikiwiki than the perl version. Such systems probably don't have ghc and
62 a bunch of haskell libraries. OTOH, it might be possible to build a
63 static binary at home and upload it, thus avoiding a messy installation
65 * I can barely code in haskell yet. I'm probably about 100x faster at
66 programming in perl. I need to get some more practical experience before
67 I´m fast and seasoned enough in haskell to attempt such a project.
68 (And so far, progress at learning has been slow and I have not managed
69 to write anything serious in haskell.) --[[Joey]]
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